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    Following your comments regarding the inclusion of Foie Gras on the menu aboard Azura, a spokesman for P&O Cruises has made the following statement:

    "Foie gras remains a popular dish with many P&O Cruises customers. We are looking at a number of suppliers who can provide a sustainable and welfare-led means of production."
    P & O have shown that they can read now they need to show that they can listen.


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    We should count ourselves fortunate indeed that we can eat foie gras (in some places), and have not (yet) been reduced to this:

    The Mail apologises to its readers for these pictures but they speak more eloquently than any politician of the desperate plight of the starving people of Zimbabwe | Mail Online

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    We should count ourselves fortunate indeed that we can eat foie gras (in some places), and have not (yet) been reduced to this:

    The Mail apologises to its readers for these pictures but they speak more eloquently than any politician of the desperate plight of the starving people of Zimbabwe | Mail Online

    These are two completely separate issues. We are fortunate we have plenty of food to eat but that still doesn't justify eating products that can only be produced by inhumane practices.

    In both instances we are talking about humanity - surely we can feel sympathy for the plight of the folk in Zimbabwe and feel the same compassion for the geese?


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    I totally agree about Foie Gras and will not choose it when on Azura maiden cruise but just think on all those that have complained about it and the way it is produced. Will you instead have chicken for dinner which of course has been reared on a farm in a field with total freedom all day long....I dont think so. Most food in Britain is reared purely for the major supermarkets and the demand for low prices by the consumer without the thought of the welfare of the animal. So before everyone gets on there high horse about Foie Gras just think when you sit down to your beef, lamb, pork or chicken with smug satisfaction that you are not eating Foie Gras the conditions of most animals are kept in modern farming practices.


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    I totally agree about Foie Gras and will not choose it when on Azura maiden cruise but just think on all those that have complained about it and the way it is produced. Will you instead have chicken for dinner which of course has been reared on a farm in a field with total freedom all day long....I dont think so. Most food in Britain is reared purely for the major supermarkets and the demand for low prices by the consumer without the thought of the welfare of the animal. So before everyone gets on there high horse about Foie Gras just think when you sit down to your beef, lamb, pork or chicken with smug satisfaction that you are not eating Foie Gras the conditions of most animals are kept in modern farming practices.
    At the risk of sounding smug (as I'm told I am sometimes ), I don't eat animals, or eat animal products, or wear animal skins, or use things with bits of animals in them. Having said that, perhaps it makes sense to focus on the most outrageous practices first - it'll take a lot longer to persuade people that other creatures don't need to die because they're useful or taste nice. (Smug vegan. :o)


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    I totally agree about Foie Gras and will not choose it when on Azura maiden cruise but just think on all those that have complained about it and the way it is produced. Will you instead have chicken for dinner which of course has been reared on a farm in a field with total freedom all day long....I dont think so. Most food in Britain is reared purely for the major supermarkets and the demand for low prices by the consumer without the thought of the welfare of the animal. So before everyone gets on there high horse about Foie Gras just think when you sit down to your beef, lamb, pork or chicken with smug satisfaction that you are not eating Foie Gras the conditions of most animals are kept in modern farming practices.
    Where I am given the information I will always avoid meat products that come from poor farming practices. The standards of farming for animals produced in the UK are improving all the time but sadly the labelling can be misleading and can indicate an animal was reared in the UK when that may not have been the case. I would love to have the full information so I can make an informed choice.

    In the meantime I will steer clear of food that I know has not been treated well whilst alive.

    I'm sorry if that appears smug but I'm simply trying to do the right thing based on the available information.


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    I do eat meat but go to great lengths to make sure how the meat is reared. At the VERY LEAST it is RSPCA Freedom food, and actually the chicken I buy has been running around a field. To my knowledge lambs in this country are not intensively farmed and I do not buy bacon other than British. I do agree that most food in this country is produced with the intention of making the most profit and therefore the welfare of the animals in compromised but as I can see by this thread a lot of people do care and what is more the numbers are growing as farming practices are exposed.
    I am very fortunate in that I can pay the extra price but I also eat less meat to compensate. The Foie Gras issue is something that has haunted me since I first saw it 40years ago, it is inhumane and uncivilised, all we can do is continue to boycott it..Carol


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    I love Foie Gras, I know it's perceived as cruel but so what.
    If the goose wasn't bred for food it would be killed off anyhow.

    Should we boycott Veal?

    Should P&O pay all its staff British (or european) wage levels? Most of us would probably be priced off cruises straight away.
    Isn't that also cruel exploitation?


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    I love Foie Gras, I know it's perceived as cruel but so what.
    If the goose wasn't bred for food it would be killed off anyhow.

    Should we boycott Veal?

    Should P&O pay all its staff British (or european) wage levels? Most of us would probably be priced off cruises straight away.
    Isn't that also cruel exploitation?
    Hi All
    This debate could get wider + wider.
    Did anyone see an article in the morning paper re report from EHRC regards workers in the meat packaging industry being abused,mistreated,bullied + at times even physically abused.
    I hate all cruelty,but what always astonishes me is the outcry against animal abuse (quite rightly) but the turning of blind eyes to people abuse by employers.
    By the way,love veal but wouldn't touch Foie Gras with a barge pole.
    JC


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    Never had Foie Gras and won't touch veal on principle.


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