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     Mike Brunt, Norfolk is offline Deck Hand Member
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    IT'S OFFICIAL!



    We've just received news that The Queen will officially name Cunard's newest liner in Southampton next month.

    At a spectacular quayside ceremony Her Royal Highness will send a traditional bottle of champagne crashing against the massive hull of her regal namesake, Queen Elizabeth, signalling the ship's entry into service and her arrival in her home port of Southampton.

    Cunard's sixth Queen and second largest vessel will arrive in Southampton on 8th October in time to prepare for the Royal event.

    As with the naming of QM2 and Queen Victoria Cunard, or should I say Carnival, will use everything that is British to their own advantage. Our Monarch will name the ship after herself in the UK. There will, no doubt, be a religious service and yet they have the temerity to use the down market dollar as the on board currency in the everyday operation of these ships. There will also, no doubt, be a British postbox on board and the boat stations will have British names.

    I see this as an insult to our currency and our establishment. The last time I sailed on QM2 there was not even an interdenominational church service on either Sunday. Dual standards no less by the clueless American owners. These are well run lovely ships - what a pity loyalty to Britain is used only where it suits Carnival's purpose


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    Mike, That must have just been a one off .. There is and aways has been an interdenominational service (when the ship is at sea) as well as daily Catholic Mass & Sabbath Service's for Jewish guests.

    As a Brit we should be very grateful to Micky Arrison & Carnival, without him there probably wouldn't have been the continuation of a Cunard brand after the QE2 .. I think he came along at the right time.


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    I see this as an insult to our currency and our establishment. The last time I sailed on QM2 there was not even an interdenominational church service on either Sunday. Dual standards no less by the clueless American owners. These are well run lovely ships - what a pity loyalty to Britain is used only where it suits Carnival's purpose
    You must have been very unlucky.
    Holland America comes under the Carnival umbrella, and they manage Mass every day, Interdenominational service on a Sunday and a celebration of the Sabbeth.
    Well they do on the ships I've been on pre and post Carnival take over.


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    Mike, That must have just been a one off .. There is and aways has been an interdenominational service (when the ship is at sea) as well as daily Catholic Mass & Sabbath Service's for Jewish guests.

    As a Brit we should be very grateful to Micky Arrison & Carnival, without him there probably wouldn't have been the continuation of a Cunard brand after the QE2 .. I think he came along at the right time.
    Paul - I'm very cognisant, that without Carnival, we would not have Cunard now and am eternally grateful for this but a Cunard ship, so British in all other respects, registered in Southampton using an onboard currency other than Sterling is surely unacceptable to any patriotic Brit!

    There was a Jewish service on board QM2 each week but nothing else and we were at sea on both the Sundays to which I refer.

    Mike


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    "The Queen" will never be Her Royal Highness! It's "Her Majesty". In spite of the social fopar it is great news that Her Majesty The Queen will be naming the new Queen - Queen Elizabeth!


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    I see this as an insult to our currency and our establishment. The last time I sailed on QM2 there was not even an interdenominational church service on either Sunday. Dual standards no less by the clueless American owners. These are well run lovely ships - what a pity loyalty to Britain is used only where it suits Carnival's purpose
    As I recall Cunard were using the US Dollar prior to the takeover by Carnival. I guess so many people forget that Cunard ships, though of a 'traditional' British style, are actually very international, and particularly well supported by the USA. The US Dollar is also an international currency and to be fair, the QM2's 'stock in trade' is either trans Atlantic crossings or it's World Cruises.

    It is a total misconception that Cunard, the Brand, relies solely on the British market.

    While maintaining a UK headquarters, Carnival have devolved the running of Cunard specifically to it's Southampton HQ. Cunard's President and Managing Director, Peter Shanks, is British: as was his predecessor, the very capable Carol Marlow.

    What on earth has dual standards and a swipe at Americans, who incidentally saved the brand, got to do with interdenominational worship, God bless us all?

    PS The brochure mentions non-denominational services, in my experience often taken by the Captain.

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    As I recall Cunard was using the US Dollar prior to the takeover by Carnival. I guess so many people forget that Cunard ships, though of a 'traditional' British style, are actually very international, particularly well supported by the USA. The US Dollar is also an international currency and to be fair, the QM2's 'stock in trade' is either trans Atlantic crossings or it's World Cruises.

    It is a total misconception that Cunard, the Brand, relies solely on the British market.



    While maintaining a UK headquarters, Carnival have devolved the running of Cunard specifically to it's Southampton HQ. Cunard's President and Managing Director, Peter Shanks, is British: as was his predecessor, the very capable Carol Marlow.

    What on earth has dual standards and a swipe at Americans, who incidentally saved the brand, got to do with interdenominational worship, God bless us?

    PS The brochure mentions non-denominational services, in my experience often taken by the Captain.
    Hi Richard
    Every time you have taken that picture it has been raining.
    Does'nt it ever stop down there?
    Loverly up here:D
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    Oh PLEASE...... Her Majesty hasn't been 'Her Royal Highness' since the night of 6th Feb 1952 when her father HIS MAJESY, died in his sleep. The Queen has been HER MAJESTY ever since, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, 'Her Royal Highness' !!!! :mad:
    The same with the Queen Mother - ALWAYS BUT ALWAYS, since Dec 1936, 'Her Majesty' - yet I have seen postcards for sale in London captioned 'Her Royal Highness'. Aaaaargh !!!!
    Oh dear Oh dear......bet you belong to the ' Apostrophe Society' too


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    There has always been interdenominational services on QM2 when I have been onboard. the Captain takes the service on a Sunday of sea days.
    The services we went to were always well attended, and we song some good hymns.


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    As I recall Cunard were using the US Dollar prior to the takeover by Carnival. I guess so many people forget that Cunard ships, though of a 'traditional' British style, are actually very international, and particularly well supported by the USA. The US Dollar is also an international currency and to be fair, the QM2's 'stock in trade' is either trans Atlantic crossings or it's World Cruises.

    It is a total misconception that Cunard, the Brand, relies solely on the British market.



    While maintaining a UK headquarters, Carnival have devolved the running of Cunard specifically to it's Southampton HQ. Cunard's President and Managing Director, Peter Shanks, is British: as was his predecessor, the very capable Carol Marlow.

    What on earth has dual standards and a swipe at Americans, who incidentally saved the brand, got to do with interdenominational worship, God bless us all?

    PS The brochure mentions non-denominational services, in my experience often taken by the Captain.

    Richard

    When I first sailed with Cunard the company was owned by Trafalgar House, in which I had owned shares for years, but I do not recall, in the late 80s, the dollar being the unit of on board currency on all the ships operated by the company in those days.

    I'm congnisant that there would not be a Cunard today but for Carnival and I'm grateful to the Americans for that, as I have actually already stated in an earlier response, if you read it. Likewise I'm also quite cognisant that such a brand obviously has an international clientelle as do most lines nowadays.

    You seem to have missed the point that, when QM2 was launched, there was a religious service associated with the ship - it is often shown onboard. That is where dual standards, on board currency, the lack of Sunday interdenominational worship on a recent Fjords cruise are related within the earlier comments.

    Please digest the material properly before going into print.

    Best wishes.

    Mike


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