Topic: I Wonder Why!

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I am removing the content of this topic as I now consider the timing of it to be wrong.

It was not aimed at any particular person or persons and was prompted by a similar topic.

'Why do bad mannered people cruise'.

I apologise if anyone took offence by it. please do not add any further comments - Thank you.
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Why do bad mannered people subscribe to forums? is it because:

They can hide behind their screens.
They never have to meet face to face.
They enjoy being offensive.
They are arrogant.
They have no compassion.
They have no empathy.
They have no consideration for others feelings.
Their keyboard works faster than their brain.

or what.
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Hi David (it is David isn't it?)

I realise something has happened to upset you, and I sincerely hope it wasn't anything to do with me. If it was, I apologise.

I think you've hit the nail on the head - at least with regard to anonymity. There may well be excellent reasons for remaining anonymous (although you'll probably gather from my posts that I'm not bothered about it), but it does allow the more unpleasant to sneer and to make uncalled-for remarks without fear for the consequences - which is what usually holds such people in check.

There's a brilliant song by Roger Waters (of Pink Floyd) called 'The Bravery of being out of Range'. I think that sums it up perfectly.

Regards

Barrowman, I have to wonder if you're relatively new to the world of the internet forum. Have you never heard of 'trolls' (in the internet sense of the word?

Much has been written about the internet troll but one definition can be found here: Internet Trolls

'Do not feed the troll' is a phrase you find on many forums. Put simply... just ignore them. Eventually they will stop - or go away.

QUOTE:

Why do bad mannered people subscribe to forums? is it because:

They can hide behind their screens.
They never have to meet face to face.
They enjoy being offensive.
They are arrogant.
They have no compassion.
They have no empathy.
They have no consideration for others feelings.
Their keyboard works faster than their brain.

or what.
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Well, at the risk of being classed in one of your catagories non of which are applicable [well, maybe the last one at times but that's for spelling mistakes], but you probably wouldn't believe me, I am going to disagree with this post. You obviously HAVE been upset but at the end of the day this is an open forum and if you don't like the posts, as Grumpy said, ignore them.

We all have our problems [one of mine is going around my head so much, I can't even begin to think about sleep] but I wouldn't dream of discussing any on a mainly cruise forum such as this [or any for that matter but that's just me]. You opened your heart to the world and it's obviously got a bit trampled on. I am very sorry you've had your problems, I truly am but it's nothing to do with bad manners, lack of empathy, compassion, being arrogant etc etc. There is a time and a place to talk to your cyber friends about your past woes and possibly a site like this is not one of them.

I hope you take this post in the spirit it was written.
J

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Hi David (it is David isn't it?)

I realise something has happened to upset you, and I sincerely hope it wasn't anything to do with me. If it was, I apologise.

I think you've hit the nail on the head - at least with regard to anonymity. There may well be excellent reasons for remaining anonymous (although you'll probably gather from my posts that I'm not bothered about it), but it does allow the more unpleasant to sneer and to make uncalled-for remarks without fear for the consequences - which is what usually holds such people in check.

There's a brilliant song by Roger Waters (of Pink Floyd) called 'The Bravery of being out of Range'. I think that sums it up perfectly.

Regards

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Hi Dave, No nothing to do with your goodself, I have a lot of respect for your posts, you say what you mean without being offensive to anyone which is how it should be.

I do not seek confrontation with anybody as a rule, and I would not have on this occasion had it not been a brainless, comment posted by someone who is a long time member of this forum and (who I gave more credit to), on a post where I said that I had been in hospital 3 times now and was lucky to be alive, and the comment came back "Booo hooo hooo who's looking for sympathy" or something to that effect.

Thats what pee'd me off. It's not funny if you have been there, and not a subject to be taken friviously. many of the members on here, including myself are retired and I'm pretty sure they would'nt want to have read that either.

After my response to him, he has disappeared and not made any further comments. Would have thought an apology might have been nice. Hence I have now got on the case of the underdog (hope everyone will excuse the terminology) but I do hate it when people get on their high horses and belittle others for no good reason other than to satisfy their own ego's. Please excuse any spelling, it is now
2.23 am. .....Kind regards David
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QUOTE:

Barrowman, I have to wonder if you're relatively new to the world of the internet forum. Have you never heard of 'trolls' (in the internet sense of the word?

Much has been written about the internet troll but one definition can be found here: Internet Trolls

'Do not feed the troll' is a phrase you find on many forums. Put simply... just ignore them. Eventually they will stop - or go away.

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Hi Grumpy, no I havn't heard of a 'trolls' before, Thanks for that, I would normally agree with that 100% and that is what I usually do, If I had not been offended (and it does take a lot to offend me) on this occasion, none of this would have occured, thanks for the advice and the response, please see my post to Dave (above)
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Well, at the risk of being classed in one of your catagories non of which are applicable [well, maybe the last one at times but that's for spelling mistakes], but you probably wouldn't believe me, I am going to disagree with this post. You obviously HAVE been upset but at the end of the day this is an open forum and if you don't like the posts, as Grumpy said, ignore them.

We all have our problems [one of mine is going around my head so much, I can't even begin to think about sleep] but I wouldn't dream of discussing any on a mainly cruise forum such as this [or any for that matter but that's just me]. You opened your heart to the world and it's obviously got a bit trampled on. I am very sorry you've had your problems, I truly am but it's nothing to do with bad manners, lack of empathy, compassion, being arrogant etc etc. There is a time and a place to talk to your cyber friends about your past woes and possibly a site like this is not one of them.

I hope you take this post in the spirit it was written.
J

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Hi Morton, I have been saying that for weeks when members complain about all the fun posts, but when you are involved with a topic you dont think to yourself, oh, that ones from 'whoever' I wont read that - you do read it thinking it's on the same theme.

My point in using my life threatening experiance's was not to seek sympathy but to get over to members that there are people who's health is not 100% and who may become stressed by some of these
unwelcome'd and unsolicited derogatory comments being made.

Regards David (and I'm definately going to bed now - goodnight).
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Hi David,

I was saddened to read how you have been upset by the response of another poster and fully understand the questions you pose. I really enjoyed meeting Kay and yourself on Magnifica and found you to be a humorous, pragmatic, pleasant person to enjoy dinner and breakfast with.

There is no doubt that some people act differently online than they do in real life. Personally, so much of my business and personal life is spent communicating virtually that I could not adopt that split personality so hopefully you met the same Grant in person as you had conversed with via these forums.

I hope you are soon back to your badge campaigning self and an important contributor this this forum. Take care. Grant.

Nice answer Grant , well said.

Hi David

Sorry you have been so upset by that post, I did think it was rude when I read it. I'm sure the person regrets the remark now that they have seen the affect it has had.

The trouble with forums (and I have been members of a few that have trolls) is that we all arrive online in different moods. After dinner conversations are mellow as we've all had a good meal, perhaps a drink and are in the mood to relax and set the world right. People use forums at different times and sometimes come to them at a bad time. Personally I work with a computer and flip in and out when I'm having a bad moment at work as a form of light relief - I would hope even then I am not rude but it is just an explanation as to why someone might act out of character.

I have had persons react negatively to my comments and my first instinct was to be hurt. However the support in my favour from the next few posters soon made me realise that it wasn't my problem.

Hailing back to a thread several months ago, I do hide behind a pseudonym and that helps. I have revealed a certain amount of personal information (I am female and work in business) but make a point of not revealing much more publicly, despite being prodded to do so by Gordon, as I feel that when you do so people stereotype you and react to you accordingly. I think people will use personal information in a way other than what it is intended. Having said that, if I ever meet anyone from this forum on a ship I will happily bore you with my full life story!

BTW, although I say I hide behind a psedonym, I really am addicted to history - it is a serious part of my life and the driving force behind most of my cruises. Whilst I wanted to use a pseudonym I also wanted it to tell people something about me.

Hope you can forgive the poster who upset you. I enjoy your posts and don't like seeing any of the regulars upset

Kind regards

Sue